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Moseley could do with a council run gym. The nearest council run gym is Cocks Moors Woods or in Highgate. As there is currently an incentive to encourage Birmingham residents to attend the gym for free the current council run gyms are overrun and over stretched. I believe this would create new jobs and would be perfect for the Moseley community. Moseley doesn't even have a private gym as far as I'm aware.
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Perhaps the tennis club could be subsidised to provide an indoor fitness facility.
This is correct, although I do feel that gyms are not the best way to encourage people to take exercise. Gyms often reinforce the idea that exercise is a chore, a way of punishing yourself for being unfit. Gym 'drop-out' rates are high; the last figure I saw for the number of people that quit the gym after a couple of weeks, despite good intentions, was almost 80%. Exercise should be fun, and should focus on personal development, not simply repetitive actions such as those undertaken on resitance machines and treadmills. Martial arts, dance and competitive sports should be given the highest priority.
What's wrong with the gym we've got? It's open seven days a week and like all council gyms is free during the daytime during the week and after lunchtime at the weekends. Or do you mean that it should be moved to the other end of Moseley?
Why do we need a council run gym? There are already private gyms in the area. Why can't people use those? If they can't use private gyms because they are too expensive then other alternatives are available. They could go for a jog round a park and do sit ups and press ups in their homes. I see no reason why our taxes should subsidise gym membership for others. Gym membership is not a basic human right! It is a luxury. If people want to get fit and healthy they don't need gyms or money. They need motivation and determination.
Even though there is a huge number of ethnic minorities living in Moseley, it seems to me that only the white people seem to be in control of all the committees? Maybe the CDT should consider other people, rather than itself all the time? ......and cllr hendricks does not live in Moseley! One would easily think that the moseley society and the CDT are racist bodies!
I was interested to read the last comment about the claim that the CDT is self serving and the Moseley committees are in a white majority. I am the Manager of Moseley CDT and have worked in Moseley for awhile now and, I'm Indian. Firstly, let me say it's unreasonable to say we're racist bodies however it is true that it is mainly white people are involved in community groups (except for the inter-faith group). But that situation can change. We share your concern about the lack of involvement from so called "ethnic minority" groups and attempts have been made to find people from the local Pakistani community to get involved in the work of the Moseley Forum, Society and CDT but very few people have volunteered their time and skills to date. If you want to volunteer for a Moseley group, I would be happy to talk to you.
Moseley should be proud of it's ethnics and express it's multiculture and stop letting white racist folk in Moseley be in charge.
There needs to be a super Mosque in Moseley as some people can't afford to travel and Moseley is a massive major area so a Mosque in Moseley would be brilliant.
There also needs to be a centre for young refugees and somalians in Moseley aswell.
In response to the manager from the CDT. The person was referring to all ethnic minorities...it seems that you are putting people in boxes yourself, by referring to the "Pakistani community?" One Indian person, suddenly does not make it okay..the CDT and the moseley society always complain about front gardens disappearing under concrete, it just so happens that all of these gardens are owned by Asians!....and the last time I checked Indians were Asians as well? The CDT is without doubt a self serving white body......and has been since day one! Hence, no so called "ethnic minority" involvement apart from yourself!....clearly you cannot see what is blatant and obvious to everyone outside these bodies.
I agree with those early views, there are a lot of white racists in moseley who dislike the fact that Asians have moved into this area and have bought some of the more expensive homes. The CDT and the moseley society are self serving white bodies, it seems to me that the CDT manager is clueless.
One final point, all this big plan for moseley is one big con. There is clearly no money for this project, just as there was no money for the kings heath action plan either. The CDT and the residents of moseley are all being conned by the local councillors! Wake up and stop wasting your time, as this big plan is never going to take place!
As the Manager of Moseley CDT let me be clear that the CDT is not a racist or self serving organisation and again I repeat my offer; if you want to get involved in community life in Moseley, then get in touch. The Moseley Forum is the place where local residents can air the views about Moseley; why not get involved?.
Also, remember the Big Plan is a planning document that we're working on for Moseley residents and there are resources to complete it. One of the reasons Moseley CDT, Society and Forum are all behind the Big Plan is to protect the character of Moseley. I guess it's one of the reasons why people like to live here because it has character. The concern amongst lots of residents is that once the character changes, the neighbourhood becomes less desirable.
Some people clearly like to live in Moseley because of its unique character. A big part of this character for many is the vibrant night-time economy, with its very well managed pubs, music scene, restaurants and bars. It is important we play to our strengths and preserve Moseley's Historic past - the place where Oasis played, home of the Folk Festival, The new MAC, where Tolkien grow up, where Kris Kristofferson went the pub, where Ocean Colour Scene, UB40 and others hailed from, where Morrissey decided he was going to be called Morrissey. These facts are as unique as our architecture and perhaps can have greater leverage in reviving our economy.
I agree with the above post. Moseley's night time economy is almost as important as its beutiful old buildings. The good selection of pubs, bars and resturants is the main reason my friends and I moved here. I visited Harbourne last night and was supprised to find this suberb now has five good pubs. Thats as many as Moseley! This means young proffesionals moving to Birmingham are more likely to move to Harbourne instead of Moseley. Moseley needs the money these young proffessionals bring in. It drives the redevelopment we need. The old Pennywise building was only demolished because developers know they will be able to build appartmants that will sell for a good price. I'm sure we're all glad to see the back of that building.
Moseley needs to improve its night time economy. As pubs go up market the antisocial behaviour they cause drastically decreases. The Village pub could be refurbished. We need the Jug Of Ail to reopen. The Wake Green Lodge and Gables Hotel could be turned into 'gastro pubs', which would appeal to young and old. We need to move forward. If you don't move forward your moving backwards.
Hello fellow moseley-ites.
I am very interested to hear about peoples demand/desire for a gym. There is very little council provision across birmingham for fitness training facilities. The healthy & safe way to improve fitness, strength of muscles, bone and connective tissues and to prevent & treat injuries in sport are to use intelligent no nonsense free weight training and running/agility work.
There is only one athletics track in perry barr for use at cost. And the free weights provision in Birmingham is quite frankly a joke. Athletes and sports people train with weightlifting derived explosive barbell movements. This is also highly suitable for people who want to improve regular fitness. (check the craze of CROSSFIT for proof). There is only ONE platform and weightset in the whole of birmingham for this at Joseph chamberlain college. Which is only open for arond 3 hours each day. The platform is also shared by everyone else in the gym who wants to lift a barbell for any other reason. Making it practictally impossible to use.
Weightlifting is an olympic sport, and their is no where for Birmingham citizens to train for it. There is also no where for aspiring athletes or sports players to enjoy the benefits of these exercises.
Now, lets think about the basic strength movements. Squats, deadlifts and pressing/bench pressing. These are the only logical, efficient and safe ways to get strong. Getting strong is the fastest way to improve overall fitness as well as strengthening bones & joints to prevent future injuries.
The only places to do these are, alexander stadium which is so crammed and tiny, I would say its dangerous. The place is also old & dingy. The changing rooms probably carry rish of legionaiires disease.
Also Small heath leisure centre. Which is again old, tiny & dingy. (actually saw some massive cockroaches last time I was there) but they have the staple equipment of a power rack, good benches and a little space for deadlifts. But this place is falling apart, it desperately needs money, refurb and ideally more space. Its like stepping into 1988.
This is comprises the total provision of training facilities in Birmingham. Which is quite frankly pathetic. These facilities also cost even more than private gyms to use.
In a country that values sports, such as the USA. Even a high school or college would have rows and rows of power racks, weightlifting platforms and weightsets. But we do not have something decent in our entire city. How do we expect to build atheletes or fit strong citizens like this? There are also rumours, that the these few facilities maybe closed in the near future leaving the public with nothing.
Treadmills & machines achieve nothing more than timewasting, injury & tendinitis. They do not make people fit. They also cost a disgusting amount of money, regular massive floor space and massive amounts of lighting and air conditioning for those large rooms. (hardly evironmentally sound). Athletes, sports people or intelligent keep fitters do not use treadmills and machines. They run outside, and perhaps go swimming if they can find a decent pool (another problem!).
I have become very frustrated in the lack of adequate facilities, even in the private sector. It is also especially difficult if you do not drive. So have been considering creating my own gym to provide both myself and other keen keep fitters or aspiring athletes a good training environment.
I do not have much capital, and am not really interested in this as a money making venture anyhow. Id like it to be a public service or perhaps co-operative. I just need a location/premises, that is the main difficulty and cost.
I have thought about places like the moseley CDT building.
How interested are people? Would anybody be interested in working with me on this or helping me find a premises?
Thankyou.
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